striving stresses its arms towards perfection, with a clear stream of reason that has not lost its way into the dreary desert sands of dead habit, where the mind is led forward by deep into ever widening thought and action, into that have been of freedom, dear father. let our country awake. amen. >> martin sheen gets tonight's last word. the 11th hour with stephanie ruhle starts now. tonight the presidential candidates firing up their base as they try to turn up every last vote in a tight race. we check in with our friend, steve kornacki, on the path to 270. plus, a warning to democrats from the battlegrounds. why a new memo is laying out a

worrying trend among young voters. and why america has become irresistible to investment. energy secretary jennifer granholm is here to discuss how clean energy is boosting the economy, especially in red states. as the 11th hour gets underway on this tuesday night. good evening, once again. i am stephanie ruhle, and we are now just 42 days away from the election. on one hand it seems like tomorrow, on another, it feels like it's never going to get here. because both candidates, what are they doing right now? they are leaning into issues that energize the respective base. vice president kamala harris spoke with a local wisconsin radio station and talked about restoring abortion rights under roe v wade. listen to this. >> we should eliminate the filibuster for row and that we need, and get us to the point, where 51 votes would be what we need to actually put back in law the protections for reproductive freedom.

>> did you hear what she said? this is the first time vp harris confirmed her position on eliminating the filibuster to codify roe v wade since becoming the democratic nominee. meanwhile, donald trump was in georgia for the first time in almost two months. and listen closely to what he promised. he promised to lower taxes, raise tariffs, and, quote, take other countries jobs. i promise we are going to dig into that. and tomorrow harris is preparing to give a speech in pittsburgh with more on her economic vision for america. with that, let's get smarter with the help of our leadoff panel tonight. hugo lowell, senior political correspondent for the guardian. molly jon doss, special correspondent for vanity fair, the you know her as an msnbc contributor. and leanne caldwell is here, co- author of the early 202 newsletter. okay, leanne, have you heard from lawmakers on the vps

comments? i want to know the reaction on capitol hill tonight about ending the filibuster to restore abortion rights, and yes, i'm going to let you start with what did joe manchin say? >> well, senator joe manchin was obviously not thrilled. he said he was not going to endorse in this race, he is not pleased about kamala harris's comments. but guess what? joe manchin decided not to run for re-election, so joe manchin won't be in the senate next year. so it doesn't matter, really, what joe manchin thinks about it at this point. republicans are obviously beside themselves. democrats, though, this is something that they have been contemplating and discussing. senate majority leader chuck schumer has said that it is something that he is going to have to consider with the rest of the democratic caucus. removing aspects of the filibuster for something very specific, like voting rights,

he said that that is something he would do. as far as abortion is concerned, that is absolutely on the table. but, step mama they also have to have a democratic majority in the senate and that is very much up in the air. >> unfortunately i was so taken by her living room i have no idea what she does that. so, molly, i am going to ask you to discuss the same thing. but kamala harris talked about this on a local wisconsin radio station. how important are these local interviews on issues like this? and if you want to, and feel free, i can't help you. it is like a cream oasis in there. it really is beautiful. >> what she is doing, what the harris team is doing, these local news stations doing local stuff, you know, doing the black journalists association last week, they are very targeted in the kind of media they are doing, which i think is very smart. look, there's been a lot of talk about doing a cut out for

just reproductive choice. again, we don't know that they are going to have the senate numbers. but i think her justification for this would be that it was a right, a constitutionally protected right for nearly half a century. so, it is not like just ending the filibuster for something that hadn't existed for a long time as a right of women. >> and i want to wait to talk about what donald trump said today and talk more about where he said it. he was in georgia for the first time in almost two months. hugo, i know you have a lot of reporting on his ground game. tell us. >> look, the trump campaign has outsourced most of its campaign to super pacs. >> what does that mean, they outsourced their ground game to super pacs? >> so, historically what happened would be the rnc would get this part of money and farm it out to state and local republican entities and they would do their own ground game,

where they would have armies of field operation people, door knockers, going door-to-door like have you made your plan to vote in this election yet? if you haven't, what is your plan? >> got it, so the rnc did not do it this time, they were releasing laura trumps record, they had legal bills to cover, and priorities. >> i saw the video. >> i don't know if it was a full lp, but at the very least it was a single. that does not happen for free. >> right. and the opinion that the campaigns can now coordinate more closely with super pacs because it allows the campaigns to free up some money. this was the rationale. the problem was they started so late. he really started, these super pacs, hiring people last month. this is extremely late in the cycle. you are trying to hire people on two or three month contracts to go knock on the doors in the blazing heat in georgia, arizona, nevada, that is not something you can retain good staff to do. second of all, at this date in

the cycle you don't get as many contacts as you would like. america pack leading the ground game operation for trump in the battleground states is trying to do three passes in election battleground states. they're not on track. >> last-minute losers? >> too little too late. >> all right, let's talk about mitch mcconnell. he said he is not a fan of tariffs after donald trump reposed a 200% tariff on john deere equipment, which is manufactured in mexico. and caveat it to our audience, you want to destroy us a storied american brand an american company, sure, jack up tariffs in their face and make products more expensive for the consumer, so hurt the consumer and hurt one of america's most beloved companies. besides mitch mcconnell, who very rarely agrees with trump but very rarely does anything about it, have you talked to any republicans on the hill about trumps econ ideas?

>> well, he probably rarely agrees with you, too, but that is exactly what you said, what you said today. that it will absolutely raise the cost of american consumers and it is not something he wrote words. there are a lot of republicans who are extremely uncomfortable with trump's tariff plan on capitol hill, they say look, this is campaign politics, people make a lot of promises, and they are back in the mode of hey, let's cross our fingers and hope this does not happen if he gets elected. at this point they are not willing to speak out very much against it, but this has to, if this is in the hands of republicans in congress they are not comfortable with this, even though they have moved in the direction of donald trump on the economy, but this, for most of them, is too far. >> okay, just reminder audience.

those were republican lawmakers crossing their fingers and hoping a campaign promise does not come to fruition, and that campaign promise is of the republican candidate, not the democrat. donald trump also promised today that if elected, i want to make sure i get this straight, he is going to take jobs from other countries by offering lower taxes and lowering the energy cost to companies here so they are going to want to manufacture in the united states. here is what i need to know, hugo. does this work with undecided voters? because if we just stop having taxes, if we bring in no tax dollars into this country whatsoever, which is basically, every passing day, with every goodie that trump offers, like we are no longer going to need an irs, we are not collecting taxes, our country won't run! >> right, and can we just say, if you take all of these protectionist measures together you actually increase inflation, which is what trump

is saying he is going to reduce, and he has been blaming biden for, now kamala harris. all of these measures actually increase inflation, they increase the cost of living, and i don't see how this is beneficial for the american consumer. the trump campaign likes to talk about the american worker, but the american workers are consumers, too, and they're going to be had in the pocketbook if you continue to have measures like tariffs and basically bringing foreign companies tax breaks to manufacture in the u.s. >> school of business, how are you feeling now? and mark cuban has gone further today, not just trolling, attacking, fighting with elon musk about kamala harris policies versus trump. he went as far as to officially endorse the harris walz ticket. watch this. >> i want to go through a few quick statements online supporting vice president harris, and why think she is better for business. in a nutshell, the vice president and her team thinks through her policies.

she doesn't just come off the top of her head, say what she thinks the crowd wants to hear, like the republican nominee. he says things off the top of his head that tend to often be ridiculous, if not insane. >> ridiculous if not insane. but is that strategy working? >> well, we don't know. we have polls. >> polling has continued to say that he does better on the economy, despite 16 nobel laureate economist, despite 80 ceos, despite donald trump's policies that he is actually pitching, he has scores of people going i don't know, he is pretty good on the economy. >> its vibes. i don't know. it is crazy, but i agree. and every economic policy he has shopped has been like childcare, remember last week. >> childcare is childcare. >> right, the man is not coming up with anything new, and he is usually just recycling old

stuff. but for whatever reason, i guess there is some kind of memory of republicans being good on the economy at one point. but yeah, no, i am glad that mark cuban did that, and it is nice to see that there are some billionaires that don't just care about the 2025 tax cuts, the trump tax cuts that are going to expire and they wanted to stay. >> but that is what is interesting. because trump kind of has this two-tiered base of super wealthy people who don't want a wealth tax, who want to protect their situation. but also, his core base, that blue-collar worker, and why they are so interesting is that was his original base, that forgotten american. he didn't remember them. joe biden and joe biden's policies did deliver for that voter, yet they are staying with trump. tomorrow vp harris is giving a speech in pittsburgh on manufacturing. help us understand what her pitch is going to be, because in the last four years they have actually delivered for that base. >> you know, the funny thing

about trump, as well, when he was in office he would talk about 401(k)s are going out, the s&p is going up. but your whole constituency base is not looking at the 401(k) and seeing if it is pegged to the s&p. they are trying to go through their normal, regular consumer issues on the high street. so this is always been the disconnect inside trump world. he has to placate his all for rich donors, but also his base. and he is always counting on the fact that his base is not quite understand the economic instruments and the economic product he is pushing that appeal to the rich donors. that is always been the continuum here. it is funny you mentioned about harris and her policies, when she talked about an opportunity economy and when she talks about trying to help a middle- class, that is the pitch. not specifically on the manufacturing policy, but what i noticed with the small and medium-sized business party that harris has come of the moment she put forward her party on that, trump had to pin it and say no, i support the middle class, as well. and i'm going to have the same set of policies that harris

has. because he realized he was nothing match on the economic side. >> let's talk about immigration. it is clearly one of donald trump's biggest attack lines against vp harris. there are many people in this country. it is their top issue. but she is trying to take control of that narrative, she is going to the border on friday. what are your thoughts? >> look, one of the things they did last year was they had murphy work on murphy cinema and the senator from, well, anyway, sorry. they had the three of them work on this border package. they got a bill together, they got langford. they got the bill together, and then trump killed it. so there been a solution. and again, the problem with the border is money. they just need money. money for judges, money for enforcement, money to take care of the border, to put the people out there. >> to democrats need to do a better job saying that?

because in the absence of not saying that and us having an illegal immigration problem, and even a legal immigration capacity problem, in the absence of the kratz not saying we've got the laws, we need the money to put this forward, does that not leave a gap for people to say well, democrats are doing anything for me, or they are focused on the immigrants, they are not focused on the tax it puts on me, and it gives way to the trump lies? >> yes, absolutely. and when you talk to people in texas or people who legislate or work in those areas who are in the government, they will say the problem is money. they don't have enough people working there, they don't have enough judges, they cannot process the claims fast enough. and that is why people don't get called back for years and years. so, it's an easy solve, but until there is legislation there is not going to be money.

>> it's an easy solve, molly said it first. maybe last. all right, new topic, leanne. house speaker mike johnson is turning to democrats to pass the continuing resolution to fund the government. he insists that he and donald trump are on the same page. i am tempted to say i don't believe that, but you know better than i do. what's the word? >> you cut out, i didn't hear your question, but i'm going to talk about this anyway. so, speaker johnson met with donald trump twice last week. once he went down to mar-a- lago, trump still proceeded to truth social the fact that there should be a government shutdown if he does not get his bill that would prohibit noncitizens from voting. of course, it is already illegal, but, anyway, this is what he's demanding because it is a campaign year, we are 45 days out. mike johnson met with donald trump again for a second time last week in washing to d.c. so we don't know exactly what was said, but since then donald

trump has not threatened and called for a government shutdown. so, that is why mike johnson is saying that they are not far apart, they have not split here. but the reality is that house republicans, mike johnson has to continue to manage this relationship for donald trump, 42 days from an election, when not only is the presidential race extremely close, but so is control of the house. mike johnson knows a government shutdown is not good for republicans who want to win control of the house. donald trump has proven that he has not cared much about down ballot, he is most interested in his own race. so the government is not going to shut down. they're going to vote to fund it tomorrow, and donald trump, we will see what sort of response he has. >> my goodness, leanne, thank you. hugo, molly, thank you, as well.

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we are just six weeks away from election day, and with all of that, the polls, they can be hard to tell where the race stands. but thankfully we have steve kornacki, he is on the big board to help break down all of it. all right, steve, right now what are the members telling us? great to see you. >> great to see you, too. let's take a look, there's been a lot coming out in the last couple of days. first of all, you probably seen these headlines in the last couple of days. our own nbc poll had, is ahead by five, cbs had her up by four, cnn this afternoon harris by one, and many others. let's show you that average year. this is the average of all the polls recently, all of them conducted post debate. what is that net out? it nets out on average to harris by three points in the national horserace right now. of course, what we've seen in 16 and 20, the last two elections, is that donald trump fell short in the national popular vote both times. he won once and he nearly won a

second time because of the electoral college. so, what do things look like in the seven core battleground states? looking at our poll averages in the states right now, and what jumps out, i think, is a bit of a north-south divide. look, we see the harris blue here, where you see her best results. wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania, her three best results. those three big ten states. you've got it nevada, harris leading an average thereby about appointment a half. nevada is a particularly volatile state with polling, hard to nail down. and trump in strength right now, georgia, arizona, and died there in north carolina. but trump doing on the whole a little bit better in the sunbelt and he is in those midwest states. and of course, for trump, probably the situation is he's got to get like georgia, carolina, he could then win with pennsylvania. the point for trump is he is going to have to win, almost certainly, one of those three 10 states right now where harris is pulling the best.

of course, these are very close margins. >> let's talk about this. because politico is reporting that some just took democrats, justifiably, are worried that the teamsters non-endorsement of harris is a warning sign that she has real work to do with working-class voters, despite the fact that so much of what joe biden has delivered , his legislative winds have delivered for blue-collar workers. >> so, steph, we just showed you, michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin. and take a look, michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin. these three states among the seven core battleground states have the highest adult populations of white voters without four year degrees. the color white voters. and of course, we talk about this as a core trump constituency, in 16 and in 20. but another feature has been pulling misses among this group of voters, blue-collar white voters, particularly in

michigan, wisconsin, and pennsylvania, both in 2016 and in 2020. so, keep that in mind. that last graphic i showed you where harris has her best poll average numbers in those three states, there are also the three states that are sort of chock full of that from friendly demographic that has been underestimated, undercounted, really, in polling in terms of his extent of support for trump the last two times around. if that happens again, those small harris poll average leads in those states look a lot different. >> it is undercounted, why? because people are voting for him but they don't like to talk about it because they don't want to do with a headache? >> well, there are all sorts of theories about why pollsters have not been able to accurately capture the segment. it is a large segment, but the segment of the blue-collar white population that is pro- trump. one of the things that happens, demographically speaking, in terms of being representative of the population as a whole, you can get the correct number of blue-collar white voters in your pole, but there are still

blue-collar white voters who vote democratic. there are not as many who vote republican in these states or vote trump in the states. and what may end up happening in these polls is they get more willingness from the democratic side of that, the democratic segment there, to actually answer the phone and go through the pole process. there are a lot of different theories about why those trump voters have been hard to reach, but it certainly seems that i have been very it seems that that is an issue in the polling in those states. >> what about the ceiling? because vp harris still has areas where she can expand support. but trump, it seems like he is got a ceiling. is that the case? >> well, certainly, look, talking about 46%, 47% is generally what people think based on the last two elections. there've been some where he has pulled a little bit higher than that this time around. one area lookout for trump is he has shown some growth in the polls relative to 2020 and 2016 among nonwhite voters. now, among black voters, what

you're looking at here, this is our average of all of the different polls that are out there now, and on average, trump sitting in the did teens against black voters. these numbers will bounce around from pole to pole, so it is a little bit hard to nail down. but we can say, historically speaking, if anything like this would play out in the election, 15% for republican among black voters in the presidential election would be at the very high end of what we have seen in modern times. and that, you know, it is small, but that could boost trump in a state like georgia, a state like north carolina, a state with a large black population. that kind of improvement from the mid-high single digits to the mid teens. and among hispanic voters, this was a big story in 2020, trump made big strides with hispanic voters. again, you are looking at our average of all the polls right now with hispanic voters, harris, 54, trump, 41. again, if this were to be what actually played out in the election, that would represent

further progress, further growth for trump among hispanic voters. you start thinking about an arizona and nevada, this would come into play, certainly in georgia, as well. 10% hispanic, there. again, this would represent growth for trump. we talk about is he locked in based on 16 and 20? here are two demographic groups, particularly hispanics, worry he has shown some improvement this time around. >> steve, you better rest up. you have 42 days and then, it is game on. all right, when we return, the most win voters harris needs, and where top democratic voters say outreach is vastly underfunded. we will begin when the 11th hour continues. hour continues. citi's industry leading global payments solutions help their clients move money around the world seamlessly in over 180 countries... and help a partner like the world food programme as they provide more than food to people in need. together, citi and the world food programme

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there is a bullet political warning sign for vp harris in battleground states according to the new york times. two democratic groups says the push to reach younger minority voters needs more money asap. they point to recent internal data from these states and say harris must have these voters as part of her coalition if she wants to win in november. let's discuss. jason johnson who i have not seen in ages is in town. politics and journalism professor at morgan state university. he, of course, is an immense and easy political contributor, as well. and mike madrid is here, former political director of california's republican party, cofounder of the lincoln project.

jason, these groups are trying to tell donors that just because kamala harris is a woman of color, do not automatically assume they're going to get out and vote for her. what you think of this morning? just quickly, she is pulling the out of donald trump for the double-digit lead for youth voters. >> look, she is up by 31, doing better than joe biden. but this is normal. stephanie, honestly, you can look at 2020, you can look at 2016, people say the same thing every year. there is never a campaign season where someone is saying i think we are good on honey. they are always asking for more. i think with this particular generation, though, the political class has to catch up on how to communicate with them. i get so much of their information from tiktok , so much of their information from instagram. they are not getting it from tv, they are not getting it from facebook. facebook is for the grandparents now. and i think the campaigns could be more sophisticated in getting into the algorithm, figuring out algorithm and communicate with young people. i can always be done.

>> you are a college professor. is it working? you and i talked about this six months ago, nine months ago, we talked about the double haters. we talked about younger people not being excited or inspired by a donald trump and a joe biden. your focus group of your students, what are you learning? >> so, at the beginning of every semester i do a what do you know quiz? i asked them 10 questions. who shot megan the stallion in the foot, who is the governor. i asked basic things to see where they are. 23 out of my 25 students knew what product 2025 was. >> because they all watch 11th hour? >> of course. we were watching, they said stephanie told is this. and it was amazing, because students are don't know who the governor is know that project 2025 is something bad. it is because they are in the lgbtq community, because they care about immigration, because they care about abortion. that is something that is gotten through. and i know that they only get their information from tiktok, so it makes sense that groups are asking harris to focus more there. but the democrats have a hit with this policy, as it is something that is motivating young people to vote against

trump and for harris in ways that we did not see in 2020 and did not see in 2016. >> my, it also seems that they are arguing that at this point in the race mobilizing voters is more important than making new ads. i'm going to go out on a limb here and say no.. >> that is a part of it, but i want to take it back to the previous statement with steve kornacki who said that 47% of hispanic voters are voting for donald trump . later that with the fact that 38%, almost 40% of all latino voters are under the age of 30, and folks, we need to start being honest about what is going on here. the youth vote and the latino vote are basically the same thing, so the challenge is not just mobilization. there is a persuasion problem that still have to happen, and days are getting short now. they are going to have to tighten up their message game, as well as completely fund these mobilization efforts if they are going to bring that 41% back into a historically high range, which we saw in 2020, which is about 35%. so there is a complete overlap

between the latino votes and the youth vote, and i don't think it's as simple as simply communicating, there is a lot of persuasion the start happen here. >> i don't know, do you agree with that, jason? when we talk to latino voters, latinos are the fastest growing group of entrepreneurs in the country, who, time and again, polling shows that they care about deregulation and lowering taxes. and i will see a huge overlap with the young people you are talking about. >> no, this is not the case at all. we are happening with the latino vote in america is it is also driven by men. latino men have seen that trump is very attractive, you see that with african-american men, that is where some numbers are coming from. the youth vote, and steve kornacki has talked about this. we are missing a lot of young voters, just like we missed them in 2022. because first-time voters who came of age, became politically active after the ending of roe v wade, those people are not

being pulled. because we don't answer phones, because we don't know how to get their phones. i think there is probably a wellspring of young voters who are out there, enthusiastic about harris, and they are a larger number than the shy trump voters who i think at this point it disappeared. >> all right, let's talk about, a reporter asked speaker johnson today about the house role in certifying the results of the election. we can dance around polls and our people turning out of it. this, what we are talking about right now, this matters. listen to a speaker johnson said. >> mr. speaker, do you commit to observing regular order in the certification process of the 2024 election, even if kamala harris beats donald trump? >> well, of course, if we have a free come affair, and safe election we will follow the constitution. absolutely, yes. >> lets her minor audience. 2020 was a free, fair, and safe election. yet mike johnson right there voted to overturn those results. how does this man, the speaker of the house, get away with saying he is going to follow the constitution with a big old if attached to it?

>> look, if i had a dollar for every time i looked at one of my former republican brother in and tried to answer that same question and where their shame went, i would be a very wealthy man. look, they're going to keep saying this. they're going to say we will follow it as long as it is a fair and honest election, and then when it does not break in their direction they are going to say this was not a fair and honest election. that is the ruse, that is the shell game here. i think he is more than prepared to do that. he demonstrated that by voting to that effect, and i think he is probably lining up his caucus to do the same thing again in 2024. >> jason? >> he is lying. there is no fair election where trump gets re-elected. that is the attitude of many of the republican elites. not necessarily republicans on the ground, voting in georgia, north carolina, but that is the elite power. that is what the members of congress thing. so he will not certify unless he is absolutely forced to do so. and i fear, and i don't think i am unique in this. >> if he is forced to do so, or

if donald john trump wins. >> exactly. yeah, trump wins, and of course it is a free and fair election. we are not getting into questions of voter suppression happening in texas, georgia, north carolina, but those are the only elections they think are legitimate. and i really do fear that if harris is to win, if she wins the popular vote, she wins the electoral college, which there is a possibility, we don't know, we are six or seven weeks away. i fear violence. january 6th was a test run, and there have been four years of many, many people not being held accountable for what they did four years ago. and there is no reason for them to not do it again if they are unhappy with the results. >> michael, the washington post is reporting that elections officials are trying to get out ahead of conspiracy theories and lies, and they are now trying to offer a whole new level of transparency. they're giving tours, open houses, actually putting their work on live streams to say here it is, america. but, will any of that make a difference if people are determined to sow doubt? and if

other people are open to those conspiracy theories because they don't want to believe what they see right before their eyes. >> no, i don't think that it will. i think if there are enough people determined to cause chaos in the election than it is going to happen. look, on the lincoln project in 2020 we were perfectly prepared to, and fully expecting that there would be problems with what we called the chain of custody of the ballots. and this is not happen to happen in urban areas, hispanic, black precinct, or blue regions of the state. these can happen in deep red areas where you have candidates, parties, or people who want to cause trouble and cause uncertainty in the race simply by messing with what we call the chain of custody. who touches the ballots? how are they processed? how do they get from the high school gymnasium where people are voting to the county government center? anyone ballot box can be messed with in any red county, and that causes uncertainty in the outcome of a whole state.

the really dangerous, precarious moment that we have to be very mindful of is the 72 hours after the polls close. that is time when the early voting in the early processing begins, the most vulnerable time for democracy. that is when you are going to see the most shenanigans, possibly violence, and great concern area we need to be very vigilant. but setting rules is not going to be enough. there are too many ways to interfere with the process of counting ballots to entirely protect the system. >> all right, michael, thank you for joining us. jason, wait to see you. when we come back, energy secretary jennifer granholm is here to talk about the economy and what can happen all those green energy jobs in red states if trump wins in november. the 11th hour continuing right after this. introducing allison's plaque psoriasis. she thinks her flaky, gray patches are all people see. otezla is the #1 prescribed pill to treat plaque psoriasis.

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secretary, i am so glad you are here. because so much has been done in terms of positives for the economy, specifically for green initiatives, yet people say i don't know what is been done. what do you think the greatest accomplishment has been during this administration in terms of green energy that has been economically advantageous? >> first of all, clearly the passage of the inflation reduction act and the bipartisan infrastructure law, two keys to be able to build out this clean energy have been extraordinary. stephanie, i know you come from this financial background. half 1 trillion dollars of investment in the united states since the passage, just in the past two years in clean energy. and of that, one dollar on the public side and six dollars on the private side. we say this is private sector led the government enabled. and what is that mean on the ground? it has meant over 800 factories that have announced they are coming to america, expanding in america, to build these products that get us to the

goal of net zero carbon emissions and 100% clean electricity on the electricity grid. it is such great news. 400,000 people being employed in this clean energy sector, faster growth rate than the rest of the economy, which is growing well. just an amazing story that i want people to know. can i just give you one more? we are putting on the grid this year, everybody knows about the hoover dam. hoover dam is two gigawatts of power. on the grid in america this year we are putting 30 hoover dam's worth of clean energy on the electricity grid. because of the incentives in the inflation reduction act. america has become irresistible for investment. administration to these projects that are already

underway? >> first of all, over 60% of the investments that i'm talking about are going to red states and red counties. just that's where they are gone. in fact, 86% of these th investments have gone to counties with below average weekly wages and below average college rates. a colot of that is rule. it would be political malpractice to vote against taking away jobs, opportunities, communities left behind. all these communities hollowed out by the loss of manufacturing jobs. all the out sourcing. this industrial strategy is giving hope to communities all across the country. >> then if you bought the hope and the business and the jobs, why are they still red counties? >> well we are not doing this based on red versus blue. >> you're not. >> you are asking me a human nature question. >> this is. i'm not saying you chose these e projects because they are red

counties but why are they stilly red? >> i don't know that people have made the connection between the passage of these laws and what they are seeing on the ground. i just don't think that is true. we have double the number of charging stations. there are five times more charging stations in america than there are in mcdonalds. publicly available high speed chargers. 192,000. we are bumping up against 200,000 high speed chargers. i don't know that people understand all this investment, all these jobs are connected to the policy that was passed under the biden harris administration. >> there are a group of people who don't need the charging stations. they are the people filling their tanks and good news, the price of gas is going down across the country. is that because we are drilling more than ever? >> we are producing more energy than ever. both fossil energy as well as clean energy. renewable energy. and we want to be producing

even more. we know that the hyperscalers will be doing all of these data centers across the country. ai. there will be greater demand and so we will need to add power. but our hope is nthat we will put on the grid enough power, clean power, to be able to power all of those data centers and the electric vehicles and all the factories that are coming on board. even as we are producing record amounts of oil and gas. >> how do you fit all that under the same tent? oil ucing record amounts of and gas, but oh by the way, we want to go green. >> everybody recognizes this is a transition. it is 2050. we have to get to net zero. 26 years from now. so, we can't flip a switch and have it all go away. so we know iwe have to get there. the question is how quickly can we add enough clean energy so that we transform our energy grid to be 100% clean. 100% zero carbon emitting?

>> in order to transform, are ra you hoping we will see more deregulation? people have this idea that like no regulation is good and more o regulation is bad, but that is not really the case. it's smart regulation. do we need changes to make the transformation you are talking about more streamlined quicker? >> we do ouneed to speed up permitting. it is ridiculous it takes decade for a transmission line to get in and we have to move power from where it is generated to the places where there's a great demand. so we do need the do that. and you know what? the positive news u about ai, w are engageing in a pilot to use ai to help us speed up the permitting so we can do it much more quickly. taking into account the environmental concerns. permitting is there e to addres i'm bullish on tothis. so excited. this is such a fantastic fine

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the last thing before we go tonight is a little different than usual but something we need to update you on. the story we have been talking about since it began. brett farve while appearing on capitol hill today, the hall of fame quarterback made a surprise announcement. he has been diagnosed with

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